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Silver Belle 06-08-2009 09:09 AM
Parade Magazine Gun Poll
 
Parade Magazine article slamming guns.

Here is a link to the article. http://www.parade.com/news/intellige...softening.html

Included in the article is a survey re: tightening/softening gun laws. I am sure they were expecting either a 50/50 split or the results to tilt in favor of tighter gun control laws. I have a hunch they are pretty surprised with the results so far. Take the poll and surprise them even more.

The closing paragraph on this article leaves no question as to where their bias lies.

Quote:
"We have the equivalent of a Virginia Tech massacre every day in this country. It's just not all in one place," says Daniel Webster of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research.

NOOB 06-08-2009 09:13 AM
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It wont let me vote.

Silver Belle 06-08-2009 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by NOOB (Post 1759653)
It wont let me vote.
Hmmm...it just let me vote. See if this works any better. http://www.parade.com/guns

Twisted Avatar 06-08-2009 09:33 AM
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Gun-control advocates argue that weakening laws is disastrous. While it wouldn't necessarily lead to more mass shootings, they say, it would almost certainly increase the number of gun-related murders in the U.S. There are currently more than 11,500 each year, and America has one of the world's highest firearm homicide rates. Per capita, our rate is 39 times greater than that of England, 13 times Australia's, and
6 times Canada's.

Ares 06-08-2009 09:59 AM
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Talk about lopsided. Check these results out.

Quote:
Should states loosen restrictions on guns?
Yes 94%

No 6%

sirgonzo420 06-08-2009 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Ares (Post 1759705)
Talk about lopsided. Check these results out.
I agree it is lopsided....


It should be 100% yes and 0% no.


6% must be the margin of error

:biggrin:
.

Ares 06-08-2009 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1759713)
I agree it is lopsided....


It should be 100% yes and 0% no.


6% must be the margin of error

:biggrin:
.
ha ha ha good call, so more than likely 100 percent:bull-smile:

tyusclan 06-08-2009 10:58 AM
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"....America has one of the world's highest firearm homicide rates. Per capita, our rate is 39 times greater than that of England, 13 times Australia's, and
6 times Canada's."

This a very deceptive statistic. While firearm homicide rates are higher in America, overall per capita homicide rates are higher in all those countries.

Silver Belle 06-08-2009 11:13 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tyusclan (Post 1759779)
"....America has one of the world's highest firearm homicide rates. Per capita, our rate is 39 times greater than that of England, 13 times Australia's, and
6 times Canada's."

This a very deceptive statistic. While firearm homicide rates are higher in America, overall per capita homicide rates are higher in all those countries.

Oh, they love to quote those deceptive statistics. Just like in this next article. This one also has a poll. Apparently the Virginia Pilot readers are not as enlightened as those who read Parade Magazine.

http://hamptonroads.com/2009/06/virg...se-record-clip

Quote:
Virginia's permit requests, gun sales rise at record clip
Posted to: News Virginia

GUNS IN VIRGINIA:
A four-part special report
on the debate

Poll: Do you think there should be more restrictions on conditions for applying for concealed weapons permits?

By Louis Hansen
The Virginian-Pilot
� June 8, 2009

Erin King squeezed into a packed classroom at Bob's Gun Shop with a new pistol and a mission.

She sat through two hours of instruction and fired off several dozen rounds at the range with her Guardian .32-caliber. The 26-year-old from Suffolk bought her first gun a few weeks ago and plans to get a concealed-carry permit next month.

She'll slip her pistol into a hidden holster and protect herself commuting to her part-time job cleaning offices at night. "I'm responsible for myself," King said.

As the classroom shows, she's not alone.

Driven by safety concerns or political angst, gun sales and applications for concealed-carry permits are booming.

Applications for concealed-carry permits statewide have jumped 42 percent from the same period last year, when the state issued a record number, according to the Virginia Supreme Court. In South Hampton Roads, this year's requests are running nearly 40 percent over last year's. Most are granted.

In May, the number of active concealed-weapons permits in Virginia reached 188,900,

according to the Virginia State Police. More people than ever are eligible to carry concealed handguns in the state.

Reported firearms sales by licensed dealers and gun shops in Virginia have also skyrocketed.

Dealers sold 60 percent more guns in November 2008 than they had in November 2007, according to State Police records. Sales by licensed dealers are on pace to break last year's record by more than 30 percent. The totals do not include private sales.

Steve Dowdy, firearms instructor at Bob's Gun Shop in Norfolk, said gun owners fear they will lose their rights under President Barack Obama and a Democratic Congress. "I hear this every day: 'I want to get this while I can,' " Dowdy said.

Aaron Karp, a consultant with Small Arms Survey, a think tank studying international policies and proliferation of firearms, agrees that political motivations and a strong gun lobby have driven the increases.

A perception of growing lawlessness in communities can also drive people to buy and carry handguns, he said. For example, a proliferation of gangs in Hampton Roads could spur residents to purchase more handguns, said Karp, also a political science lecturer at Old Dominion University.

Gun sales have historically increased in healthy economic times, which makes the recent spike during this recession unusual, Karp said. He's actually surprised??? sb

To obtain a concealed-handgun permit in Virginia, a person must be at least 21 and demonstrate handgun competency, which can be accomplished by completing an approved gun safety course or showing proof of military service. The person must also undergo a criminal background check. Total fees are capped at $50.

"A driver's license is harder to get," Karp said. This statement is ridiculous. sb

A survey of recently approved applications at the Chesapeake courthouse show a wide range of permit holders: fathers and sons, active-duty Navy officers, enlisted sailors and even a retired Baptist minister.

Jim Coppage, 66, received his permit about a month after he filed his application in Chesapeake Circuit Court. The long time gun owner said he did it to make a political statement.

He renewed his membership to the National Rifle Association. He said he noticed that it's become difficult to find ammunition in outdoors stores. He watched gun-control laws tighten in Illinois, where Obama served as senator.

"I don't trust the president," he said. "I wanted to do it and express my rights."

But he has no intention of carrying a concealed handgun. "I don't expect a war," said the retired Navy senior chief petty officer. "Some people are. I'm not."

Jimmi Bonavita, a former Virginia Beach police officer, said the handgun activity is probably the most he's seen in his 35 years as a weapons instructor.

He began teaching a new concealed-weapons permit class in September after noticing a growing demand, he said. When properly handled, he said, a concealed weapon "gives you better protection for you and your family."

Doug Pennington, spokesman for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, said statistics actually show reported violent crime decreasing. According to the FBI, violent crimes reported to police decreased 2.5 percent between 2007 and 2008.

Pennington dismissed the argument that tougher gun-control laws would completely strip gun owners' rights. "It's never going to happen," he said. "Nobody is ever going to take all the guns away."

Bob's Gun Shop, housed in a old brick building on Granby Street in downtown Norfolk, is one of several shops that offer training courses for concealed weapons. They've been running full classes at least once a week since the fall, Dowdy said.

On a recent Tuesday night, he ran through the basics of safely handling a gun for about 30 students. After that, the students went to the top-floor shooting range.

Shanika Pledger, 27, brought her cousin and a friend to the course. Although they joked about their shooting skills on the paper targets, they planned to buy their own guns and get concealed-carry permits.

Pledger and her husband, Dontay, decided they need a handgun for protection because of growing crime in their Norfolk neighborhood.

"He thought it was a good idea," Pledger said. "We're living in different times."

Professur 06-08-2009 11:20 AM
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Hmmm. Seems like they'll let anyone vote. One more in the right column.

Twisted Avatar 06-08-2009 11:30 AM
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Pennington dismissed the argument that tougher gun-control laws would completely strip gun owners' rights. "It's never going to happen," he said. "Nobody is ever going to take all the guns away."

GSM/MM 06-08-2009 07:11 PM
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the virginian-pilot is a sorry liberal rag.

poor boy 06-08-2009 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GSM/MM (Post 1760458)
the virginian-pilot is a sorry liberal rag.
Thanks , I'd never heard of this trash fish wrapper and am embarrassed to see its from my home state. I like the poll results though .

GSM/MM 06-08-2009 10:15 PM
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i believe its home office is in virginia beach. it circulates in the hampton roads area. any other virginia GIMers out there?

SimpleIsGood229 06-09-2009 05:32 PM
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94% to 6%, in our favor! I'll bet they're surprised. :D

Twisted Avatar 06-09-2009 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SimpleIsGood229 (Post 1761834)
94% to 6%, in our favor! I'll bet they're surprised. :D
If this article was seeing wide readership

It would be adjusted to reflect the "proper" sentiment of the day.

Just click that mouse.


T

Silver Belle 06-09-2009 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by GSM/MM (Post 1760665)
i believe its home office is in virginia beach. it circulates in the hampton roads area. any other virginia GIMers out there?
Either Virginia Beach or Norfolk...covers that whole tidewater/HR area.

The Argent Dragon 06-09-2009 05:55 PM
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Off-Topic............but I like your handle & avatar : very classy, Silver Belle ! :yes:

Silver Belle 06-09-2009 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1761874)
Off-Topic............but I like your handle & avatar : very classy, Silver Belle ! :yes:
Why, thank you, Argent Dragon. That's very kind of you!

I always say I was born about 100 years too late. I thnk I could have fit right in back then when a lady was still a lady...and she didn't always feel she had something to prove. The modern day feminazi has nothing on those old girls. :wink:

Lars Ragnarsson 06-09-2009 07:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sirgonzo420 (Post 1759713)
I agree it is lopsided....


It should be 100% yes and 0% no.


6% must be the margin of error

:biggrin:
.
What's the percentage of Americans with any combination of Tourettes, epilepsy, Parkinson's, etc? Perhaps the people in that segment had a seizure or tic at the precise moment they tried to click on "Yes."

poor boy 06-09-2009 07:03 PM
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LOL I just voted again !!!:111:


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